AT: Food

This last trip was my longest yet, and there were no real re-supply stops planned. (We did pass through the Walasi-yi / Mountain Crossing Store at Neels Gap, and I did buy Combos and Fig newtons — two things I had wanted to buy before we started, but Target didn’t have them.) So we had to carry 4.5 days worth of food with us. That is both bulky and weighs a lot!

The 1st and 2nd day, I kept thinking I had way too much food, but by the end of the trip, there was not that much left over, even though we came out in 4 days instead of 4.5…. So I didn’t have as much extra as I thought.

Breakfast:

  • 8 packs of instant oatmeal (I need 2 for breakfast!)
  • 2 packs of pop tarts (pop tarts are snacks too)

Lunch:

  • 4 individual tuna/cracker kits

Snacks (to go with lunch or dinner, or as a real in-between meal snack)

  • small packs of pringles (I love these things and ate them at just about every lunch and dinner, and ran out. Next time I should just bring full size cans)
  • small packs of chips ahoy cookies — a desert after dinner, lunch
  • combos — I still love these
  • fig newtons — yummy
  • cheese – ate with lunch and dinner
  • chocolate covered espresso beans — great lift around 2 or 3 in the afternoon, when we were hitting 13 or 14 miles on the day
  • trail mix — I had two bags and only ate about 1/2 of one of them. I noticed they were 10 oz each! That is a lot of weight to carry and not eat!

Dinner

  • 4 dehydrated meals from Mary Jane — these are very good vegetarian meals!

Drinks

  • water at the springs/streams (filtered with MSR pump filter)
  • heed — I had two zip lock bags, and used it all by the end of the 3rd day
  • coffee for breakfast — don’t leave home without it! 🙂

Supplements

  • energy bars — I had a few more of these than I ate, though I still ate 2 each day
  • tissue rejuvenator – has glucosamine, chondroitin, msm, as well as natural anti-inflammatory herbs such as ginger, tumeric, etc.
  • ibuprofen – started as preventative but I needed it by the end!

What to try/do different next time:

  • perpetuem instead of heed (? – this has a little protein mixed in, where as heed is just carbs and electrolytes)
  • more heed, since I ran out
  • big cans of pringles instead of the snack packs
  • more variety for lunch — maybe peanut butter, honey, crackers, etc.
  • keep a better before and after inventory so I know exactly how much extra I had!

Knee Update

After the backpacking trip last week, in which we did 75 miles on the AT in just 4 days(18, 18, 19, and 20 miles), my left knee got pretty sore. My right knee, which has given me problems the past several years, held up pretty well. The day after we got off the trail, we walked up to Brasstown Bald, a .6 mile paved path up. That hurt a lot, both up and down. It was all lateral pain. I did a self exam the day after that, and it was definitely sore in the lateral anterior patella and femur — classic signs of patella fermoral syndrom, likely caused by a tight ITB.

So I set up a time to go see my old PT, and he did exams of both knees, as well as my SI joint and R hip, which have also bothered me off and on a bit. I didn’t see him for another 4 days, and most of the discomfort in the R knee was gone, though in some of the exam I could feel it a bit.

I basically need to do much of the same stuff I used to do on the R knee on the left now:

  • ITB foam roller
  • ITB stretches
  • patella stretches, in both the medial and inferior directions

Beyond that, on both legs, I need to work on my hip adductor and abductor strength, stretch my hip flexors, in particular my psoas, stretch my groin, etc.

And overall, I could really work on my core strength, both front and back, to help stabalize the SI joint. And work on step downs.

I certainly can’t complain about the right knee and how well it did. It is certainly not 100%, and probably never will be back to where it was when I did the really long races. And I still wonder if there is a little scare tissue under the portal from my last surgery…

Here are the measurements:

Left Knee Right Knee
top of patella 13 3/4 13 3/4
2″ above 14 1/2 14
4″ above 17 16 1/4
6″ above 19 18 3/8
8″ above 19 3/8 19

So this shows size-wise, I still have some work to do. I don’t feel that it is weaker, and on my compex electro-stim unit (yes, I still need to blog about that)!, the milliamps I am sending in to the quads to get similar contractions are almost even… I’m only 1 or 2 ma below on the L side (meaning it is stronger). But when I do exercises like the step-downs, it is clear that the R side is not as stable. That may be supporting muscle weakness more so than quad weakness.

Here is a post with a similar table from September of 2005.

And to compare the two side by side:

April 2008 Sept 2005
Left Right Left Right
top of patella 13 3/4 13 3/4 13 1/2 14
2″ above 14 1/2 14 14 1/2 14 1/4
4″ above 17 16 1/4 17 15 3/4
6″ above 19 18 3/8 19 18
8″ above 19 3/8 19 21 1/2 19 3/4

So this shows some progress on evening things out…. (I’m thinking that 21.5 number on the L side in 2005 is not right!)

The Advenutes of Tom Sawyer. Mark Twain.

I am not sure where I got the desire to read Twain, but maybe it was from the Greg Bottom’s book I recently read. Anyway, I picked up “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court” and read a fair amount of that, and I will get back to it, but I really wanted to read Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. So I grabbed them both on a recent trip, and read Tom Sawyer first based on published date.

This book contains “The Adventures of Tom Sawyer,” “Tom Sawyer Abroad,” and “Tom Sawyer, Detective.” All are entertaining reads, though it does take a little time to get used to the writing with all the misspelled words, “southern grammar,” etc.

Only a few quotes:

He had discovered a great law of human action — without knowing it — namely, that in order to make a man or a boy covet a thing, it is only necessary to make the thing difficult to attain. If he had been a great and wise philosopher, like the writer of this book, he would now have comprehended that Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do, and that Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do.

I have found out that there ain’t no surer way to find out whether you like people or hate them than to travel with them.

This one goes along with “Wild at Heart,” which I am also reading now (look for a post in the next few weeks…) In that book, masculinity, or a man’s heart, is defined as having three main desires, one of which is “a battle to fight,” or put in other words, “Do I have what it takes?”

… he said it ‘most broke his heart to think how time was slipping away, and him getting older and older, and no wars breaking out and no way of making a name for himself that he could see. Now that is the ways boys is always thinking, but he was the first one I ever heard come out and say it.

AT: Gear

Here is run-down of gear from my last trip. This should help me next time I pack, to eliminate anything I don’t really need and get my weight down a little more.

  1. Pack – Osprey Atmos 65: This was my 2nd trip with this pack, and I still love it. On the last day, the 20 mile march, I noticed 2 cinches I had not seen on the shoulder strap. When Ethan adjusted them, I felt like my pack was 3 lbs lighter! I am not sure I could use this pack on a long solo hike — it may be a touch small. I was carrying everything I needed myself except a tent. Not sure where I could fit one. Overnight or two nights would be ok. Beyond that, I’m not so sure.
  2. Stove — Jet Boil: This was my 1st trip with this stove, and I loved it. Lightweight and compact… The burner and one fuel canister fit inside the “pot”, and the canister is good for up to 12 liters. We cooked 4-5 cups each day for 4 days, and there still seems to be a fair amount of fuel left.
  3. Lights — I can consolidate here, but I love my lights! My new head light (Christmas) is a Petz Tikka, and is much lighter and more compact than my old Petzl Duo. But I carried 2 little flashlights and a photo micro. I could easily get rid of the 2 flashlights and keep the micro for emergencies, to save a few ounces.
  4. Clothes — I went with 1 short sleeve Icebreaker BodyFit 200, 1 long sleeve bodyfit 200, a mid-weight fleece, one pair of shorts, one pair of hiking pants, one lightweight rain jacket, 3 wool socks, 1 pair of injinj toe socks used as a liner, and two boxer/briefs. The short sleeve icebreaker got some holes in one of the shoulders, maybe due to the pack straps I mentioned above, but I love this material and brand. One of the wool socks was also ice breaker and they did well too. I have yet to find a perfect solution to the boxer/briefs. I went without anything on a couple of long sections and that was sometimes ok, sometimes not. I have some shorts with liners and those have worked well for me in the past, but I did not use them this time. Oh, and one “coolie” that I used to wipe sweat off my face when it was hot, and has a head warmer when it was cold. All in all I was about right on with clothes. I could have used some very light weight fleece or liner gloves on the last morning, when my hands had gotten wet and it had cooled off a lot.
  5. Shoes — Soloman XA Pros… Still happy with trail shoes instead of boots, though I did get two very minor blisters this time. I think where the insole wraps the heel and meets the shoe may have caused them.  I normally never get blisters.  :-/
  6. Water Filter: My filter is about 10-12 years old and clogged on us on the 4th day. Since we’ve gotten home I’ve cleaned it and scraped the ceramic cartridge, and it is flowing fine. On the trail I saw thru hikers using steri-pens and chemicals. I’m not sure I’m ready for either — I still like the filters. I recently saw a new MSR pump filter that is about 1/2 the size and weight of mine, so now I have filter envy. 🙂
  7. Multi-tool — These are heavy, but it is nice to have some of the items. The knife is a must, though mine is not a locking blade. 😦 It is a leatherman, though I don’t know the exact model. About 1/2 the size of the wave I used to carry.
  8. First Aid kit — I could probably trim a little from this kit, but it is definitely nice to have. Though I don’t always use it, when I do need it, I am glad it is there.
  9. Compass — I was thinking of not taking it this time but there was one place I did need it. It is only a couple of grams, but if I could get more comfortable with my Suunto Watch, which has a compass built in, I should go that route.
  10. Suunto Watch — great for time, altitude, barometer. Need to learn to set the compass.
  11. Leki Trek polls — would never hike with a backpack without polls!
  12. Oregon Research pack bags — lots of little bags to keep things organized — clothes in one bag, food in another (or in the case of this trip, 2 food bags!). Water resistent.
  13. Sleeping bag (20 F) — This seemed warm in the beginning of the nights, but by the end of the nights each night, I needed it! It is a mummy bag, and perhaps my next bag, a 40 or 45F, will be a full zipper so I can use it as a quilt in the summer.
  14. Sleeping pad — I have the 3/4 length thermarest and love it. I think it is 13 oz.
  15. Bag Rain cover — a must.
  16. Cup — I swear I bought a titanium cup last trip, but I could not find it this trip, so I had additional weight. The Jet Boil has a fork and spoon so I no longer carry anything else.
  17. Map Case — I like to wear my map and guide book so I have quick access to it. I guess that is from my adventure racing days, as well as orienteering. I know it is additional weight, but it is worth it to me. I do have a couple of lightweight caribiners that I use on the stretch line that I could perhaps get rid of, but having quick access to move the bag is nice.
  18. Miscellaneous
    1. duct tape: a must, used to try to fix the tent, and used on my feet
    2. emergency poncho: I was going to say I would not take this again, but then on the last day, Ethan needed to cover his bag, so it came in handy.
    3. black plastic garbage bags: another must, useful in a variety of situations like grouping all of our food bags into one bag for hanging at night (to keep the bears away!), trying to fix the holes in the rain fly, etc.
    4. Coffee filter/steeper, fits right in my cup, can’t leave home without it. 🙂
    5. Body Glide — another item to never leave home without, though this trip I only used it once.
    6. Camp Towel — perfect for cleaning off with after a long day — when there is a spring! Or trying to get water out of the tent. :-/

Another quote…

Saw this on another blog, and don’t want to forget it. So keeping it here will help me easily find it again in the future when I need it. 🙂

Proselytism and evangelism are not the same thing. To proselytize is to convert somebody else to our opinions and culture, and to squeeze him into our mould; to evangelize is to proclaim God’s good news about Jesus Christ to the end that people will believe in him, find life in him and ultimately be conformed to his image, not ours. The motive behind proselytism is concern for the spread of our own little empire; the motive behind evangelism is concern for the true welfare of men and thereby for the name, kingdom, will and glory of God

– John Stott, Christ the Controversialist (173, 174)

C.S. Lewis quote

Saw this on another blog:

“I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.” — C.S. Lewis

This goes along well with the method of teaching used in Classical Christian education (the type of school we are starting), in which you can not separate a Worldview (teacher’s and student’s) from the material being taught.

AT: Neels Gap -> Wallace Gap (Old US 64)

Every Appalachian Trail sectional hike seems to have a story. This trip was no different. The story started out to be the miles. We were a little more aggressive this time vs. the last trip, when we arrived at the top of Blood Mountain at mid-afternoon, with our car just 2.5 miles down the hill. So this time we decided to do about 75 miles in 4 1/2 days, but ended up doing 18, 18, 19, and 20 miles in 4 days instead. However, the other story of this trip is equipment failure, including a tent rain fly that had literally disintegrated in a couple places and a water filter that clogged on the last fourth day.

Read on for more!

Map: Here is a map showing the part of the trail we hiked. Start was Neels Gap. Finish was past Standing Indian at Wallace Gap, which is not shown on the map. It is between Standing Indian and US 64. You can’t tell from the scale, but it really was 75 miles! 🙂

Pre-Hike: I met Ethan and Mike at the hotel in Helen, Georgia, on Tuesday night. We selected gear to bring, eliminating duplicates, and all the food we would need, and went to bed.

Day 1: The next morning we drove my car the the finish point at Wallace Gap, and then took Ethan’s car to the start at Neels Gap. Here we are at parking area in Neels gap just before we started hiking:

The parking area at Neels Gap is actually not right on the Appalachian Trail. We had a .7 mile hike up to the AT where we had left it last year, and then about a mile hike down to the actual gap, where the Mounting Crossing Store is. We got there and spent a little time walking through the store, and I could not resist getting MORE food — Combos and Fig Newtons, which I was missing in my original purchases. This store is typically the 1st re-stocking ground for thru-hikers, and there were already a few here.

It turns out that we met a lot of thru-hikers on the way, and all of them were very friendly. Most thru-hikers start sometime around 3/15 – 4/15, though there are always some that start early and risk cold and snow in the spring, and some that start later, risking the same in the north in the fall. There were many thru-hikers, and most were doing much less mileage than we were — to save their bodies for the 2100+ more miles to go as they worked their way into good hiking shape. Most go from shelter to shelter, so we found that most shelters were likely to be full. Glad we brought the tent! :-/ One of our past times was guessing which thru-hikers we met actually stood a chance of making it. There were some that had made some very dubious equipment choices, including no tents, no 2nd layers or true water proof layers, too much stuff, etc. There is no real way we’ll ever know if we were right or not, but of all the people we met, I felt truly confident of only 2 or 3 of them! I think the current statistics show that less than 5 or 10 % of people that start actually finish. We saw people so early — for most it was anywhere from 3-10 days into their hikes depending on where we were, that they still had a ton of enthusiasm. It would be interesting to see them in another 100 miles, or after a big snow storm, or a wek of rain. We were told that some had already dropped out, though.

From Neels Gap, we hiked on. And on and on. Most thru-hikers we met were going on to Low Gap Shelter at the farthest, about 11 miles from Neels Gap. We had originally planned on going to Blue Mountain shelter, but it was getting late and we found a nice camping area at the Chattahoochee Gap. I filled up on water from the spring that starts the Chattahoochee River, though to be honest, it was not much more than a mud puddle. :-/ But it was enough for the night, so we cooked, hung our food in a tree (see pictures below), and went to bed in the tent. We did not even get out the rain fly since it was so nice out.

We saw a nice sunset looking through the trees:

Day 2: Next morning we got up, cooked breakfast (oat meal, coffee for me, tea for Mike, etc.), packed up, and headed out. It was a pretty uneventful day as we hiked 18 miles to Deep Gap. The shelter there was pretty nice, and we had the shelter to ourselves while a father-son duo chose to camp. It was somewhat odd to not be packed this time of year since so many thru-hikers want the shelters. But we were just 3 miles from Dicks Creek Gap, which is where hikers can be picked up and brought into the town of Hiawassee. Many use this town as their 1st off-trail night, where they can stay in a hostel. There is a camp site just 1 mile from that road, so some thru-hikers go there and then hike the mile to the road in the morning.

Day 3: We had set our alarm for 6:00 a.m., as the weather report indicated a strong cold front with strong storms would come through later that day. From the hikers on the trail, we got various reports, but most indicated storms would start in the later afternoon or early evening. We wanted to get a jump on the trail and make it to a shelter at a decent time, to ensure we would have a place to stay. Muskrat was 14 miles away, and we figured we could get there by mid-afternoon. Along the way there were some great mountain views, and we past from GA into NC! There was only a poll in a tree and a little wood sign, so that was a bit of a let down:

Just past the border, we passed through Bly Gap, and then had a couple steep climbs — Sharp Tooth and Courthouse Bald, each around 500 feet in less than a half a mile. One more climb and we made it to Muskrat Shelter. There were already 3 guys holding spots in the 8-person shelter. I grabbed one, but we had already talked of moving on to give us a little less mileage the next day and to go to a shelter that may be less crowded. Everyone we had seen today was going to Muskrat! Ethan and Mike came up a few minutes later, and we did decide to move on. We all ate a little, resupplied our water, and started the 5 miles to Standing Indian Shelter. This would put us at 19 miles for the day — a long day, especially after we had just done 18 and 18 the last 2 days!

We arrived, and quickly found that Standing Indian was just as crowded, and the shelter was full, so we would have to camp in the storms. We had already decided this would be fine and we’d only have 14 the next day instead of 18… We picked what we thought was the perfect spot — protected by water from a large rock and a large tree. As soon as we started to put up the tent, we found the “sky-lights” of the rain fly had totally disintegrated! We tried to stitch in a plastic garbage bag and re-enforce that with sticks, and then duct tape that from the bottom. Just as we finished eating and hung our food up, it started to rain. And then it started to poor. We quickly realized our patch job was not working as water was dripping in in several places. We worked in our rain jackets between the tent and the rain fly, and that seemed to divert the water away from dripping on us. But then we realized our perfect spot was not perfect at all. The tree roots were holding all the water, and our tent was quickly sitting in 1-2″ of water on one end! We were able to move the tent to a better spot when the rain slowed down, and position all of our rain jackets between the tent and rain fly to divert the water away from dripping into the tent for the most part. Here are a couple pictures of the tent with the garbage bag sewn in:

Day 4: In the morning there were on again off again showers, but we finally decided we needed to get up and go. We skipped cooking and just packed up. We made the decision we were probably going to hike the 20 miles out to the car, instead of the 14 to the shelter that would give us only 6 out on Sunday. We had a long climb of about 2 miles up from where we were to the top of Standing Indian which is just under 5500′. The rain cleared up, though it was cooler. We hiked about 7.5 miles to the next shelter, at Carter Gap. It was a wreck! The worst shelter I have seen on the AT yet, and there was all kinds of trash around. I took the time to pick up the trash (which meant carrying it out to the next trash can, which ended up being where the car was parked 13 miles away!) Here is a picture of us eating lunch at the shelter. We had definitely decided to hike all the way out at this point, as my water filter was not working — just a drip or two at a time — so we ended up cooking for lunch which is something we normally don’t do. And I made coffee since I had skipped it in the morning. 🙂

After lunch, we headed out, and immediately saw there was another shelter just on the other side of the trail, and this one was nice! Turns out, the one we were in is quite old. In my opinion, it should probably be torn down! Anyway, we still had 13 miles to go, so we just kept marching along. There were some great mountain views along this section, and the views between roads 83 and 67 were fantastic! There was one point when I looked down through the rhododendron roots to see it was a drop of about 75 feet, onto a rock slope, and down another few hundred feet. If there is ever a washout here, it would be really hard to get around, and pretty hard to re-route the trail!

At the top of this climb is Albert Mountain, about 500 feet up in less than 1/2 a mile! At the top was cool fire tower. We could not get all the way to the top of the tower as it was bolted shut, but we could get to just under the very top on the stairs. I am not afraid of heights, but I got a little vertigo sensation on the last set of stairs as you are literally on the edge of the mountain, and there is nothing you can see below you!

From here, it was basically a 6 mile descent, with only a couple of minor climbs thrown in. It was now that I felt my left knee start to bother me, but boy would it hurt the day after, and now a few days later, it is still a little sore. My right knee, the one that has bothered me the past few years, has had no problems at all!

One final shot of our feet at the end of the hike. I had 2 little pieces of duct tape on the inside of my heels that came off with my socks. Both were very tiny blisters, which may be the 1st time in ages I have gotten blisters while hiking.

After that we drove in to Franklin, got a hotel, cleaned up, went to Cody’s and ate way too much food, went back to the hotel and crashed.

Day 5: The next day we had to go back to Neels Gap to get the other car, and Brasstown Bald was on the way. Ethan is a “high topper,” meaning he is trying to get to the highest points in all 50 states, so we could not pass up Brasstown while being so close. My left knee was killing me on the way up, but I made it eventually, and it hurt even more on the way down!

All in all, another great back packing trip. We were a little aggressive with our mileage to begin with, and that got worse as we pushed it a little harder each day due to the storms and then due to equipment issues. But we made it through, and hopefully my left knee gets back to normal soon!

Here is a link to more pictures.

In the next few days, I am going to post a little more on equipment, exercises I should have done to get in better shape, and food choices…

Questions from a 5 Year Old

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We were driving home from Easter Dinner the other night, and Riley started asking questions… Her most common questions these days are “how do they make XYZ” (to which she quickly throws in “don’t say in a factory!” :-/ ) and “why…?” Why to just about anything.

Somewhat out of the blue came the following two questions:

1) Who did Cain and Able marry?

2) Why did God tell Adam and Eve not to eat the apple… And then as the discussion went on, Why did God put the tree there anyway?

Now #1 seems to be a pretty common question — it showed up in Carl Sagan’s book and movie “Contact,” for example, though I am not so sure how many 5 year olds ask it!. I actually had to go out and do some reading about it as I wasn’t sure of the exact answer, and rather than try to make something up, I’d much rather tell Riley that I’m not sure but I will try to find out.

Some folks may say God had already put other people (other in the sense of Adam and Eve not being their parents) outside of the Garden of Eden, though that is certainly not the “conservative” answer. Most would point out that after the Bible mentions Cain and Able, it goes on to mention Adam and Eve also gave birth to Seth (Gen 4:25), and later that he had “other sons and daughters” (Gen 5:3). The order of things may be a bit muddled as the verses are in the order of Adam and Eve giving birth to Cain, then Able, and then Seth, but that is not necessarily their true birth order. No dates or times are mentioned other then Seth being born when Adam was 130. And even if that is the true birth order, the order of Able’s murder at the hand of Cain and then Cain marrying may be such that Seth and the other sons and daughters were born before the murder and subsequent expulsion of Cain from Eden… At any rate, the answer is Cain married (one of) his sisters… Further explanations as to why that was ok back then vs. why it would not be now are mostly centered around the purity of the gene pull then vs. the mutations since, and the problems such a brother/sister marriage and subsequent children would probably yield due to the current gene pool. But that part is beyond the answer I would give to Riley! 🙂

#2 is a bit harder, and there are a lot of angles to look at it… The 1st part — why did God tell them not to eat the apple — is somewhat easier, though framing any answer for a 5 year old is tough… We put it this way: God puts in an order and outlines the consequences of not following it. Then the choice is up to Adam and Eve. You can talk about love and obedience, and you can talk about consequences for disobeying…

But the 2nd part is harder… Why did God put it there to begin with? I don’t really know the answer, and I tried to be honest and tell Riley that. Was it a test? A test God knew they would fail? Was he deliberately setting them up for failure? (Those are my line of questions based on her questions, not ones she actually asked!)

Now that I have had time to think about it, I would answer as follows, though this is not really an answer for a 5 year old. (And this is somewhat off the cuff as I have not done any research into any theological explanations…) But basically, if Adam and Eve were free to do whatever they wanted in the Garden, and there was nothing they could do wrong, there would never be a true option of choice. God wanted us to have free will, so he had to put (at least) one thing in the Garden that gave them a choice of obeying or disobeying Him.

Framing this to be personally relevant to a 5 year old, I think I would put it as follows. As parents, we are trying to raise you so that some day when you are on your own, you will be able to make right choices without us. So as you grow up and mature, we will give you more freedom, and therefore more chances to make decisions without us (i.e. to choose). We hope that everything we have done to date has led you to the place where you will make the right choices. We do know that you won’t be perfect and that you will make some mistakes, but that we will be here for you.

If anyone has any real theological answers from Bible commentaries, etc., please let me know. I’ll try to find some time to look into it further as well.